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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://straighteningthecrooked.wordpress.com/2008/06/17/the-authentic-1886-revelation/#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
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		<description>&quot;D&amp;C 124: 49
49 Verily, verily, I say unto you, that when I give a commandment to any of the sons of men to do a work unto my name, and those sons of men go with all their might and with all they have to perform that work, and cease not their diligence, and their enemies come upon them and hinder them from performing that work, behold, it behooveth me to require that work no more at the hands of those sons of men, but to accept of their offerings.&quot;

Hey I just wanted to leave a quote here on what Charles W. Penrose said about the scripture verse given by Nate in 2008. You will find that it is in accordance with the view of truthsoughtandfound. Here it is...

&quot;Quotations sometimes referred to by the weakbacked who need a ramrod fastened parellel with spinal column (He then quotes the scripture being discussed) It is a little singular that some people will persistently refuse to see the difference between a certain special work and a principle or law. The consistency of the Lord relieving a people from any such obligation as the building of a house when prevented by enemies from accomplishing it is self-evident. When it comes to the abrogation of a law, a principle, a truth, the matter is entirely different. The revelation does not apply even remotely. (Des. Eve. News, editorial, June 5, 1885)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;D&amp;C 124: 49<br />
49 Verily, verily, I say unto you, that when I give a commandment to any of the sons of men to do a work unto my name, and those sons of men go with all their might and with all they have to perform that work, and cease not their diligence, and their enemies come upon them and hinder them from performing that work, behold, it behooveth me to require that work no more at the hands of those sons of men, but to accept of their offerings.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey I just wanted to leave a quote here on what Charles W. Penrose said about the scripture verse given by Nate in 2008. You will find that it is in accordance with the view of truthsoughtandfound. Here it is&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Quotations sometimes referred to by the weakbacked who need a ramrod fastened parellel with spinal column (He then quotes the scripture being discussed) It is a little singular that some people will persistently refuse to see the difference between a certain special work and a principle or law. The consistency of the Lord relieving a people from any such obligation as the building of a house when prevented by enemies from accomplishing it is self-evident. When it comes to the abrogation of a law, a principle, a truth, the matter is entirely different. The revelation does not apply even remotely. (Des. Eve. News, editorial, June 5, 1885)</p>
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		<title>By: just a thought</title>
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		<dc:creator>just a thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D&amp;C 58:26-33
26 For behold, it is not meet that I should command in all things; for he that is compelled in all things, the same is a slothful and not a wise servant; wherefore he receiveth no reward.

27 Verily I say, men should be anxiously engaged in a good cause, and do many things of their own free will, and bring to pass much righteousness;

28 For the power is in them, wherein they are agents unto themselves. And inasmuch as men do good they shall in nowise lose their reward.

29 But he that doeth not anything until he is commanded, and receiveth a commandment with doubtful heart, and keepeth it with slothfulness, the same is damned.

30 Who am I that made man, saith the Lord, that will hold him guiltless that obeys not my commandments?

31 Who am I, saith the Lord, that have promised and have not fulfilled?

32 I command and men obey not; I revoke and they receive not the blessing.

33 Then they say in their hearts: This is not the work of the Lord, for his promises are not fulfilled. But wo unto such, for their reward lurketh beneath, and not from above.

What the Lord did in through Jacob was command the people that they should enter into that law of marraige.  He did not revoke the law, the law is still in effect.  Essentially, God damned the people of that time to a leaser degree of glory because, if you read it carefully, the reason is quite obvious.  They were not, by their own demonstration, capable of living the conditions of that law, therefore it was better for them not to, lest they bring upon themselves a greater condemnation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D&amp;C 58:26-33<br />
26 For behold, it is not meet that I should command in all things; for he that is compelled in all things, the same is a slothful and not a wise servant; wherefore he receiveth no reward.</p>
<p>27 Verily I say, men should be anxiously engaged in a good cause, and do many things of their own free will, and bring to pass much righteousness;</p>
<p>28 For the power is in them, wherein they are agents unto themselves. And inasmuch as men do good they shall in nowise lose their reward.</p>
<p>29 But he that doeth not anything until he is commanded, and receiveth a commandment with doubtful heart, and keepeth it with slothfulness, the same is damned.</p>
<p>30 Who am I that made man, saith the Lord, that will hold him guiltless that obeys not my commandments?</p>
<p>31 Who am I, saith the Lord, that have promised and have not fulfilled?</p>
<p>32 I command and men obey not; I revoke and they receive not the blessing.</p>
<p>33 Then they say in their hearts: This is not the work of the Lord, for his promises are not fulfilled. But wo unto such, for their reward lurketh beneath, and not from above.</p>
<p>What the Lord did in through Jacob was command the people that they should enter into that law of marraige.  He did not revoke the law, the law is still in effect.  Essentially, God damned the people of that time to a leaser degree of glory because, if you read it carefully, the reason is quite obvious.  They were not, by their own demonstration, capable of living the conditions of that law, therefore it was better for them not to, lest they bring upon themselves a greater condemnation.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Matthews</title>
		<link>http://straighteningthecrooked.wordpress.com/2008/06/17/the-authentic-1886-revelation/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Matthews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 05:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey I noticed that a few of the foot notes were not there. I would really like to use some of these references but I first need the reference. If anybody could help me with this I would be very pleased. 

Daniel A. Matthews</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey I noticed that a few of the foot notes were not there. I would really like to use some of these references but I first need the reference. If anybody could help me with this I would be very pleased. </p>
<p>Daniel A. Matthews</p>
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		<title>By: truthsoughtandfound</title>
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		<dc:creator>truthsoughtandfound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure where you see the contradiction occurring.

There is a difference between &quot;a work&quot; and a &quot;command&quot; - the one may be put off, the other is required under all circumstances.

From ... the other Nate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure where you see the contradiction occurring.</p>
<p>There is a difference between &#8220;a work&#8221; and a &#8220;command&#8221; &#8211; the one may be put off, the other is required under all circumstances.</p>
<p>From &#8230; the other Nate</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHI
  CHAPTER 2
Jacob denounces the love of riches, pride, and unchastity—Men should seek riches to help their fellow men—Jacob condemns the unauthorized practice of plural marriage—The Lord delights in the chastity of women. Between 544 and 421 B.C. 


  30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.

This appears to contradict this &quot;revelation.&quot;  

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D&amp;C 124: 49
  49 Verily, verily, I say unto you, that when I give a commandment to any of the sons of men to do a work unto my name, and those sons of men go with all their might and with all they have to perform that work, and cease not their diligence, and their enemies come upon them and hinder them from performing that work, behold, it behooveth me to require that work no more at the hands of those sons of men, but to accept of their offerings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE BOOK OF JACOB<br />
THE BROTHER OF NEPHI<br />
  CHAPTER 2<br />
Jacob denounces the love of riches, pride, and unchastity—Men should seek riches to help their fellow men—Jacob condemns the unauthorized practice of plural marriage—The Lord delights in the chastity of women. Between 544 and 421 B.C. </p>
<p>  30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.</p>
<p>This appears to contradict this &#8220;revelation.&#8221;  </p>
<p>#<br />
D&amp;C 124: 49<br />
  49 Verily, verily, I say unto you, that when I give a commandment to any of the sons of men to do a work unto my name, and those sons of men go with all their might and with all they have to perform that work, and cease not their diligence, and their enemies come upon them and hinder them from performing that work, behold, it behooveth me to require that work no more at the hands of those sons of men, but to accept of their offerings.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander son of Ephraim</title>
		<link>http://straighteningthecrooked.wordpress.com/2008/06/17/the-authentic-1886-revelation/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander son of Ephraim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 06:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the last verse of section 132, the Lord promised, &quot;And now, as pertaining to this LAW, verily, verily, I say unto you, I will REVEAL MORE unto you, HEREAFTER; therefore, let this suffice for the present. Behold, I am Alpha and Omega. Amen&quot;  

The Lord promised that He will reveal more concerning this LAW, which is Celestial plural marriage.  And who is more rightful to accept revelation than President John Taylor who is the President of the Priesthood and the Church?  

During a time were a revelation is called for and needed by the saints to guide them, the Lord never did falter in his promise.

I believe the 1886 revelation to be true!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the last verse of section 132, the Lord promised, &#8220;And now, as pertaining to this LAW, verily, verily, I say unto you, I will REVEAL MORE unto you, HEREAFTER; therefore, let this suffice for the present. Behold, I am Alpha and Omega. Amen&#8221;  </p>
<p>The Lord promised that He will reveal more concerning this LAW, which is Celestial plural marriage.  And who is more rightful to accept revelation than President John Taylor who is the President of the Priesthood and the Church?  </p>
<p>During a time were a revelation is called for and needed by the saints to guide them, the Lord never did falter in his promise.</p>
<p>I believe the 1886 revelation to be true!</p>
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